Subject: Synthetic Fill WAS Digest Number 3328 - msg#00126

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Re: Re: Snow Camping Advice

> There are other considerations in the cold that have also been discussed > before - and acclamation is one of the biggest ones. Sir Richard Francis > Burton slept in the snow to toughen himself - with nothing but his clothes > and a blanket. The man slept ON the snow... > For the first half of my life, most of my solo camping was done in winter. It was a really big deal around 1970 to find and buy a good down sleeping bag. I got mine at Eddie Bauer.....way before they went yuppie ;-) It was good to way below zero, weighed a "ton" and cost something like $300.....a fortune back then!!! I have many fond memories of snowstorms, deep snow, melting snow, jumping off foot thick ice to go swimming, the campfire melting 4 feet down to ground level, etc. I keep wondering what sort of weather you folks are talking about when you say "winter". Tonight it's supposed to be 5 below zero. That cold? Colder? Wendy (wsm311-YDxpq3io04c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://www.heathershikinghiatus.homestead.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ BackpackingLight Mailing List To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Post messages by E-mailing them to: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: RE: Snow Camping Advice

> I'd also like to reinforce the cautions about avalanche. Even with an > experienced group carrying avalanche beacons and shovels, a buried hiker is > at great risk of losing his life. Be very careful out there! I just read in the Sunday paper about an avalanche at Tuckerman's Ravine, NH killing a couple of people. One of the survivors is from Barre, one of the next couple of towns over from where I live. They were being STUPID. They had helped rescue folks a couple of days before and knew the danger. I guess they deserve Darwin Awards. http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.mountwashington.org/avalanche/ What is most interesting about the 2 accidents is none of the 11 people involved had any avalanche gear, but they were skilled in the sport of climbing. Some had almost 20 years of experience, but in all those winters never took the time to learn more about SNOW!. Wendy (wsm311-YDxpq3io04c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://www.heathershikinghiatus.homestead.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ BackpackingLight Mailing List To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Post messages by E-mailing them to: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: Digest Number 3328

I tried that already. They didn't know straight up from sick 'em. There are all sorts of brand names out there in ready made products but knowing which is best and then finding a supplier is apparently not easy. Craig At 04:08 PM 12/2/02 EST, you wrote: > >> >> I am thinking of making a quilt. Does anyone know for sure what the latest >> and greatest synthetic insulation is and where to get it? >> >Go to a needlework or a craft store for quilting supplies. > >Roger > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ >BackpackingLight Mailing List >To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Post messages by E-mailing them to: >BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ BackpackingLight Mailing List To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Post messages by E-mailing them to: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: Digest Number 3329

Military White Bunny boots will do it, but you are talking 4 or 5 lbs each. But you say you are standing around so that shouldn't matter. Otherwise there are a whole slew of general things that help and as a whole may do the trick. More insulation in your boots Insulated overboots. Keeping well hydrated Over insulate the legs and the rest of you for that matter. Keep wiggling your toes and swinging your legs. Occasionally do some sprints to stay plenty warm Drink a small amount of alcohol assuming you are plenty warm everywhere else. Have hot drinks on hand. Stand on a small square of closed cell foam. Eat plenty crawl in your sleeping bag. Dave Olsen > Subject: Cold question WAS Snow Camping Advice > > Since we are on the subject of cold weather - can someone tell me a > PROVEN > way to stop the toes from freezing when standing outside for any length > of > time in temps below 20 in blowing snow with snow up to the knees? > > I had on a pair of Thinsulated snow boots, 1 pair merlino wool socks, a > pair > of mid-weight hiking socks under them and my toes FROZE - but - when I > got > home, my socks, shoes, feet were dry - just my toes got cold standing > still. > Even with wiggling them in the boots, they got cold. Everything else > stayed warm until the last hr I was out when my fingers just started > getting > cold. > > Any ideas will be GREATLY appreciated. > Jodi +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ BackpackingLight Mailing List To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Post messages by E-mailing them to: BackpackingLight-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/