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>
> That's presupposing one knows God to begin with.
> Everyone wants to
> think they are God or just to forget the whole
> concept if they can't be
> God. That's what bothered me about the New Agers.
> I probably got to
> the level they were all struggling to get to and I
> didn't think it was
> that big a deal. Bliss, light and all that but then
> I was back here
> having to deal with the folks again <smile>. The
> Auties live there all
> the time and that IS a big deal.
God is just the stuff that stuff is made of, what we
are ALL made of, projected into zillions of small
fractions of itself. Anything that keeps us from
knowing that and BEING God is just veils that we work
to lift to reveal the truth.
>
> > Even Jesus said, "All these things I do you will
> do and more."
>
> Maybe after God is revealed. Since the auties are
> most likely the main
> agents of God to humans, then go at it. He's
> here...
God's not a 'he' though, IT is US, and auties are just
one of the many agents of Higher Dimensional
Consciousness. God speaks to us (the Higher WE speaks
to the lower WE of ourselves) in all kinds of
different ways. Auties carry the messages within
their bodies and minds, and as we listen to those
messages, we also open to all the other ways God is
speaking to us.
>
> > I
> > believe we are in the process of a planet-wide
> acceleration and
> > Awakening, and children like Ivy show us where to
> go to take our next
> > steps.
>
> We have to learn to hear and talk to them first.
> It's a collective
> effort and in that sense we are God. Let us not
> forget the Creator.
> They are one and the same but that's a paradox for
> later.
Yes, until we fully develop our own telepathic
abilities, we need to find a bridge between our more
archaic method of communication, verbal speech, and
the autistic way, thought-sending.
>
> > Television shows like The 4400 and the absolutely
> astounding
> > new one, Heroes, show us where we're headed. The
> truth is in those
> > programs and dozens like them, and EVERYTHING is a
> message "for those
> > who have ears to hear."
>
> The Apostle Thomas was big on usage of that phrase
> <smile>. I live
> outside and only have an iPod and XM radio for
> entertainment. I have
> some great theology podcasts you can get for free to
> listen to.
> Interested? What religion were you raised? Let me
> guess...Catholic
> right <smile>
Wow, Tom, you couldn't be more wrong on that one. ;-)
I tried lots of different churches, then in college
went with Native American Shamanism and then Wicca,
before my spiritual awakening which led to my intense
study and embracement of metaphysics. I refer to
scripture because so many people believe eternal
truths are found there, including me. I just think
the Old Testament and its accounts of supernatural
tyranny wasn't Creator at all, but demi-gods, and that
Jesus's teachings are completely separate from the Old
Testament and were given to free us from that very
tyranny. The New Testament fits perfectly with
metaphysics, and aside from the manipulations done on
it over the ages by men whose agenda was
disempowerment of the masses, the truth can still be
found there.
>
> > I can intuitively tune into autistic and
> otherwise
> > differently-abled individuals and gain insight
> into their messages
> > that way,
>
> I can't do that. The auties said I could but I
> don't know what the
> heck they are talking about.
So your experience has been as a Facilitated
Communicator with auties, then? I'm new to this list,
so forgive me if I'm asking questions answered a
million times already.
We ALL have telepathy. It's as natural to us as
breathing. MORESO, actually. It's a matter of
getting your mental body out of the way so your
spiritual body can do its thing.
>
> > and especially with Ivy, my partner and I
>
> Oh jeeze, another one with a "partner". Hey
> partner...like in the old
> West. Ok, male or female? <smile>
My luscious female lover, then. How's that? ;-)
>
> > are both able to
> > receive her telepathic imprints, and she's even
> MORE able to receive
> > ours,
>
> You bet. She can hear you loud and clear...from
> anywehre anytime.
Of course. Time and space are fabrications of our
human mind and have no real control over the reality
of telepathy.
>
> > which means there are NO secrets from Ivy. ;-)
>
> That's the part of it that boggled my mind. I could
> give a hoot about
> what they heard of me. I knew I was living pretty
> basic anyway
> compared to everyone else. I should have been a
> monk. I'd have more
> money and sex if I had been a monk. Just kidding.
Living with intuitives of any kind, autie or not, you
learn that if we all just revealed our secrets
upfront, we'd realize we're all the same and we'd all
stop feeling so dirty, crazy, stupid, kinky, scared,
boring, ugly, etc.
>
> > If she's in
> > her room and you're thinking of making a trip to
> the store, she'll
> > come out with her jacket and shoes and a plan to
> not take no for an
> > answer. ;-)
>
> They never did that sort of thing with me. I wonder
> why not.
Motivation. Ivy's VERY motivated to go to the store,
so she tunes into that vibe. ;-)
>
> > I'm ALWAYS willing to jump in and 'liven things
> up', Tom. I like
> > how you think. :-D
>
> You sound like alot of fun. Keep 'em commin.
>
> Tell more about Ivy. Her age etc. More about you
> ideas for care
> giving too. Where have you lived and all that kind
> of stuff. I'm big
> on biography. It may mean didley but it fascinates
> me.
>
> Tom
Ah, I'm happy to share, but let's save that for
another email, as my scrumptious female
lover/partner/mate just got home and I'm eager to talk
to her. :-)
Namaste!
~Satina
Namaste,
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Re: Ivy Speaks: Autism is a Message
--- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tom Smith <qim@...> wrote:
>
> Who's That Lady?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UnmOIqOtI
>
> --- Satina <dharmaworker@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I very much want to try FC with Ivy but have had no luck finding
> > someone to help me with it here in Portland, Oregon, startlingly
> > enough. I'm new here though, so I'm just getting in touch with
all
> > the resources. I'm so discouraged by the single-minded focus on
CURE
> > IT, DEFEAT IT, TREAT IT.
>
> They can't even get to living with it for crissakes! So from there
> they assume that it has to be changed in order to live with it. I
> always knew there was a way to "live with it" and for years I/we
> struggled to find a way. We found it.
>
> > But I know there are more out there like
> > us, and I'm determined to find them.
>
> It's like looking for a needle in the hay stack. Before FC everyone
> said they were "like that", then all of a sudden they weren't "like
> that". I knew there was alot of hypocrisy but never dreamed there
was
> that much.
>
> > Being a Reiki Master and spiritual counselor, and having spent
the
> > last five years exhaustively studying metaphysics, I have come to
> > believe that nothing BUT the God Is Us idea even makes sense, with
> > respect to everyone else and their own choice of belief systems.
>
> That's presupposing one knows God to begin with. Everyone wants to
> think they are God or just to forget the whole concept if they
can't be
> God. That's what bothered me about the New Agers. I probably got
to
> the level they were all struggling to get to and I didn't think it
was
> that big a deal. Bliss, light and all that but then I was back here
> having to deal with the folks again <smile>. The Auties live there
all
> the time and that IS a big deal.
>
> > Even Jesus said, "All these things I do you will do and more."
>
> Maybe after God is revealed. Since the auties are most likely the
main
> agents of God to humans, then go at it. He's here...
>
> > I
> > believe we are in the process of a planet-wide acceleration and
> > Awakening, and children like Ivy show us where to go to take our
next
> > steps.
>
> We have to learn to hear and talk to them first. It's a collective
> effort and in that sense we are God. Let us not forget the
Creator.
> They are one and the same but that's a paradox for later.
>
> > Television shows like The 4400 and the absolutely astounding
> > new one, Heroes, show us where we're headed. The truth is in
those
> > programs and dozens like them, and EVERYTHING is a message "for
those
> > who have ears to hear."
>
> The Apostle Thomas was big on usage of that phrase <smile>. I live
> outside and only have an iPod and XM radio for entertainment. I
have
> some great theology podcasts you can get for free to listen to.
> Interested? What religion were you raised? Let me guess...Catholic
> right <smile>
>
> > I can intuitively tune into autistic and otherwise
> > differently-abled individuals and gain insight into their messages
> > that way,
>
> I can't do that. The auties said I could but I don't know what the
> heck they are talking about.
>
> > and especially with Ivy, my partner and I
>
> Oh jeeze, another one with a "partner". Hey partner...like in the
old
> West. Ok, male or female? <smile>
>
> > are both able to
> > receive her telepathic imprints, and she's even MORE able to
receive
> > ours,
>
> You bet. She can hear you loud and clear...from anywehre anytime.
>
> > which means there are NO secrets from Ivy. ;-)
>
> That's the part of it that boggled my mind. I could give a hoot
about
> what they heard of me. I knew I was living pretty basic anyway
> compared to everyone else. I should have been a monk. I'd have
more
> money and sex if I had been a monk. Just kidding.
>
> > If she's in
> > her room and you're thinking of making a trip to the store, she'll
> > come out with her jacket and shoes and a plan to not take no for
an
> > answer. ;-)
>
> They never did that sort of thing with me. I wonder why not.
>
> > I'm ALWAYS willing to jump in and 'liven things up', Tom. I
like
> > how you think. :-D
>
> You sound like alot of fun. Keep 'em commin.
>
> Tell more about Ivy. Her age etc. More about you ideas for care
> giving too. Where have you lived and all that kind of stuff. I'm
big
> on biography. It may mean didley but it fascinates me.
>
> Tom
>
> > As a natural healer completing my studies in Naturopathy, I also
> > believe ALL bodily 'dysfunction' is a message, a way for our body
to
> > do its divine work of telling us when our physical, emotional, or
> > spiritual environment is toxic. The body assumes we'll stop,
listen,
> > and search for the source of the problem, rather than just
gagging it
> > with drugs and eventually, when the screaming gets too bothersome
to
> > us, cutting off the offending messenger.
> >
> > Autism's more urgent message is that we live in a toxic
> > environment. Autists have come in with bodies unwilling to
tolerate
> > the crap and 'just shut up about it.' They have given us the
Divine
> > Gift of carrying the message in their own bodies, and our
> > compassionate response will save our own lives and planet, if we
wake
> > up in time.
> >
> > Children who have been diagnosed with ADD, indigo and crystal
> > children, Down's Syndrome children, and every single other
> > 'different' individual in this world is carrying an urgent
message,
> > and every time we drug them up, try to make them normal, therapize
> > them, and see them as the problem rather than the solution, we
slip
> > further and further away from the salvation they're offering us.
> >
> > I want to create a healing, educational environment for autistic
> > children that takes ALL of this into account and explores all of
the
> > non-traditional ways of addressing the messages of the body, mind,
> > and soul, and offers education that helps these children learn
more
> > about the world they've come to assist, in ways that are joyous
and
> > honoring. I want to start a school for autistic children here in
> > Portland, Oregon. In fact, I am officially taking Ivy out of
public
> > school AGAIN tomorrow as an act of FAITH and INTENTION to stop
> > settling for less and putting too much energy into trying to fix a
> > completely faulty structure.
> >
> > Thank you for the opportunity to discuss these things, Tom.
> >
> > Namaste,
> >
> > Satina
> >
> > Tom Smith <qim@...> wrote:
> > Thanks Satina. I've heard Ivy speak and it conforms to
what
> > we hear
> > through FC though it's not FC. As you know we have problems with
the
> > "God is us" idea that is closer to the Eastern tradition. We also
> > know
> > that there is some truth in the "God is Us" idea from what we hear
> > from
> > the auties, but how it all works will be a mystery for some time.
> >
> > Much of my early spiritual training (after a solid childhood
training
> > in Christianity) was in the Eastern tradition. I studied with
> > Satchindanda who respected our religious traditions and
encouraged us
> > not to discard them. I never did and later in life developed more
my
> > original training. Now I understand more the downside of the "God
is
> > us" view. It goes to what I was struggling with while FCing. I was
> > trying to keep myself and my biases out of the conversation. That
was
> > difficult enough using FC and I surely didn't see or feel myself
as a
> > prophet which other methods would require. We can hash that all
out
> > here if you'd like. I did it on SpiritWeb years ago with the New
> > Agers
> > with no problems. Things are slow here so it might liven things
up.
> >
> >
> > The specifics of how Ivy experiences her autism are in fact on
target
> > when comparing her communication with others who FC. Those
> > perceptions
> > have great value to parents and others who are regularly caring
and
> > trying to understand what's going on in autism. Ivy's
communication
> > through you have a certain strength and wisdom that can be lacking
> > from
> > FC though sometimes my clients rang bells and blared trumpets in
> > their
> > words as well.
> >
> > Ultimately autism is more a message than a condition, but we have
a
> > long way to go for that message to be heard. Let's work on it. The
> > "God in all of us" demands it.
> >
> > Yo Ivy, Jed here. Thanks for getting mom involved.
> >
> > Tom
who's Jed?
Crabtail
> >
> > --- Satina <dharmaworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Ivy Speaks: Autism is a Message
> > > by Satina dharmaworker@...
> > > October 25, 2006
> > >
> > > My daughter's name is Ivy. She is eight years old. Society has
> > > labeled her autistic and mentally retarded, and lots of people
want
> > > to cure her, defeat her disease, compensate her for her
disability,
> > > and treat her disorder. They want to give her therapy and
education
> > > to make her normal.
> > >
> > > They don't realize that autism is a message, and Ivy is a
> > > messenger. But she doesn't give her message in words, because
Ivy
> > > doesn't use verbal communication. She shares her wisdom through
who
> > > she is. And this is how Ivy speaks:
> > >
> > > Ivy doesn't tell time, and doesn't play with toys or use
objects in
> > > a 'typical' expected fashion.
> > >
> > > Ivy is not polite, does not smile when she's not happy, does not
> > > feel sad just because you do.
> > >
> > > Ivy often flaps her hands, trembles, walks backward, spins in
> > > circles, and sings to herself in gibbrish.
> > >
> > > Ivy limits her food intake to just a few items, refusing to eat
> > > almost everything a 'typical' child eats.
> > >
> > > Ivy does not fit into conventional school classrooms and needs
very
> > > individualized, needs-based, 'special' education.
> > >
> > > Ivy knows something that I don't know. If I knew what Ivy
knows, I
> > > would know, as Ivy does, that I am God also. And if I knew
that...
> > >
> > > I would know myself based on what comes from within, rather than
> > > what societal influence tells me I am or am not, or what I
should
> > be.
> > >
> > >
> > > I would take pure, unadulterated joy in ordinary things,
flapping
> > > and trembling and spinning and singing, heedless of how
ridiculous
> > I
> > > appeared to all those who did not yet know they were God also.
> > >
> > > I would see a world of infinite possibility in every object and
> > > situation, and the limited interpretations and ideas of everyone
> > else
> > > would have no bearing on what I might achieve with it.
> > >
> > > I would sleep when tired, wake when refreshed, eat when hungry
and
> > > drink when thirsty, consuming only what appealed to me and
limiting
> > > my exposure to the toxins in this environment until such a time
> > that
> > > enough people decided to clean it up.
> > >
> > > I would frown when unhappy and smile only when I felt the joy
> > > bubble up inside of me and demand to be made manifest on my
face.
> > >
> > > I would say thank you only when I was given something I
appreciated
> > > and would only spend time doing those things which brought me
more
> > > opportunities to experience pure, unadulterated joy.
> > >
> > > I would focus on getting my needs met and let others deal with
the
> > > responsibility of meeting theirs.
> > >
> > > I would pursue those things that excited me, and would never
show
> > > up for a daily dose of social conditioning where the needs of my
> > > body, mind, and soul were sacrificed in order to infect me with
> > > sufficient programming to hide my uniqueness and make me forget
> > that
> > > I am God also.
> > >
> > > I would never let the opinions, insults, actions, or thoughtless
> > > comments of others affect what I knew to be true, that I am God
> > also.
> > >
> > > I think with the way the world is today, it's high time we start
> > > listening when Ivy speaks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Namaste,
> > >
> > > ~Satina
> > > Practical Spirituality you can use to create a life you love.
> > > http://www.dharmawork.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > �Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart.� � Proverbs 27: 9
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Re: Ivy Speaks: Autism is a Message
--- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Satina <dharmaworker@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > That's presupposing one knows God to begin with.
> > Everyone wants to
> > think they are God or just to forget the whole
> > concept if they can't be
> > God. That's what bothered me about the New Agers.
> > I probably got to
> > the level they were all struggling to get to and I
> > didn't think it was
> > that big a deal. Bliss, light and all that but then
> > I was back here
> > having to deal with the folks again <smile>. The
> > Auties live there all
> > the time and that IS a big deal.
>
> God is just the stuff that stuff is made of, what we
> are ALL made of, projected into zillions of small
> fractions of itself. Anything that keeps us from
> knowing that and BEING God is just veils that we work
> to lift to reveal the truth.
>
> >
> > > Even Jesus said, "All these things I do you will
> > do and more."
> >
> > Maybe after God is revealed. Since the auties are
> > most likely the main
> > agents of God to humans, then go at it. He's
> > here...
>
> God's not a 'he' though,
i think you hurt his feelings. . .
whattabout the long white beard?
:O)
"I hear God's fast"
-- Billy the Kid (Kristofferson)
> IT is US, and auties are just
> one of the many agents of Higher Dimensional
> Consciousness. God speaks to us (the Higher WE speaks
> to the lower WE of ourselves) in all kinds of
> different ways. Auties carry the messages within
> their bodies and minds, and as we listen to those
> messages, we also open to all the other ways God is
> speaking to us.
>
>
> >
> > > I
> > > believe we are in the process of a planet-wide
> > acceleration and
> > > Awakening, and children like Ivy show us where to
> > go to take our next
> > > steps.
> >
> > We have to learn to hear and talk to them first.
> > It's a collective
> > effort and in that sense we are God. Let us not
> > forget the Creator.
> > They are one and the same but that's a paradox for
> > later.
>
> Yes, until we fully develop our own telepathic
> abilities,
ick sounds horrendous lotsa noggins arent navigable w/o
antiseptics and a decontamination suit
? we need to find a bridge between our more
> archaic method of communication, verbal speech, and
> the autistic way, thought-sending.
>
> >
> > > Television shows like The 4400 and the absolutely
> > astounding
> > > new one, Heroes, show us where we're headed. The
> > truth is in those
> > > programs and dozens like them, and EVERYTHING is a
> > message "for those
> > > who have ears to hear."
> >
> > The Apostle Thomas was big on usage of that phrase
> > <smile>. I live
> > outside and only have an iPod and XM radio for
> > entertainment. I have
> > some great theology podcasts you can get for free to
> > listen to.
> > Interested? What religion were you raised? Let me
> > guess...Catholic
> > right <smile>
>
> Wow, Tom, you couldn't be more wrong on that one. ;-)
> I tried lots of different churches, then in college
> went with Native American Shamanism and then Wicca,
> before my spiritual awakening which led to my intense
> study and embracement of metaphysics. I refer to
> scripture because so many people believe eternal
> truths are found there, including me. I just think
> the Old Testament and its accounts of supernatural
> tyranny wasn't Creator at all, but demi-gods, and that
> Jesus's teachings are completely separate from the Old
> Testament and were given to free us from that very
> tyranny. The New Testament fits perfectly with
> metaphysics, and aside from the manipulations done on
> it over the ages by men whose agenda was
> disempowerment of the masses, the truth can still be
> found there.
>
> >
> > > I can intuitively tune into autistic and
> > otherwise
> > > differently-abled individuals and gain insight
> > into their messages
> > > that way,
> >
> > I can't do that. The auties said I could but I
> > don't know what the
> > heck they are talking about.
>
> So your experience has been as a Facilitated
> Communicator with auties, then? I'm new to this list,
> so forgive me if I'm asking questions answered a
> million times already.
>
> We ALL have telepathy. It's as natural to us as
> breathing. MORESO, actually. It's a matter of
> getting your mental body out of the way so your
> spiritual body can do its thing.
>
> >
> > > and especially with Ivy, my partner and I
> >
> > Oh jeeze, another one with a "partner". Hey
> > partner...like in the old
> > West. Ok, male or female? <smile>
>
> My luscious female lover, then. How's that? ;-)
>
> >
> > > are both able to
> > > receive her telepathic imprints, and she's even
> > MORE able to receive
> > > ours,
> >
> > You bet. She can hear you loud and clear...from
> > anywehre anytime.
>
> Of course. Time and space are fabrications of our
> human mind and have no real control over the reality
> of telepathy.
>
> >
> > > which means there are NO secrets from Ivy. ;-)
> >
> > That's the part of it that boggled my mind. I could
> > give a hoot about
> > what they heard of me. I knew I was living pretty
> > basic anyway
> > compared to everyone else. I should have been a
> > monk. I'd have more
> > money and sex if I had been a monk. Just kidding.
>
> Living with intuitives of any kind, autie or not, you
> learn that if we all just revealed our secrets
> upfront, we'd realize we're all the same and we'd all
> stop feeling so dirty, crazy, stupid, kinky, scared,
> boring, ugly, etc.
>
> >
> > > If she's in
> > > her room and you're thinking of making a trip to
> > the store, she'll
> > > come out with her jacket and shoes and a plan to
> > not take no for an
> > > answer. ;-)
> >
> > They never did that sort of thing with me. I wonder
> > why not.
>
> Motivation. Ivy's VERY motivated to go to the store,
> so she tunes into that vibe. ;-)
>
> >
> > > I'm ALWAYS willing to jump in and 'liven things
> > up', Tom. I like
> > > how you think. :-D
> >
> > You sound like alot of fun. Keep 'em commin.
> >
> > Tell more about Ivy. Her age etc. More about you
> > ideas for care
> > giving too. Where have you lived and all that kind
> > of stuff. I'm big
> > on biography. It may mean didley but it fascinates
> > me.
> >
> > Tom
>
> Ah, I'm happy to share, but let's save that for
> another email, as my scrumptious female
> lover/partner/mate just got home and I'm eager to talk
> to her. :-)
>
> Namaste!
>
> ~Satina
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Re: Ivy Speaks: Autism is a Message
--- Rose Alford <omlick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Satina, aapko hindi aatii hai?
>
> Rose
Um, sadly, no. :-)
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--- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Satina <dharmaworker@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > That's presupposing one knows God to begin with.
> > Everyone wants to
> > think they are God or just to forget the whole
> > concept if they can't be
> > God. That's what bothered me about the New Agers.
> > I probably got to
> > the level they were all struggling to get to and I
> > didn't think it was
> > that big a deal. Bliss, light and all that but then
> > I was back here
> > having to deal with the folks again <smile>. The
> > Auties live there all
> > the time and that IS a big deal.
>
> God is just the stuff that stuff is made of, what we
> are ALL made of, projected into zillions of small
> fractions of itself. Anything that keeps us from
> knowing that and BEING God is just veils that we work
> to lift to reveal the truth.
>
> >
> > > Even Jesus said, "All these things I do you will
> > do and more."
> >
> > Maybe after God is revealed. Since the auties are
> > most likely the main
> > agents of God to humans, then go at it. He's
> > here...
>
> God's not a 'he' though,
i think you hurt his feelings. . .
whattabout the long white beard?
:O)
"I hear God's fast"
-- Billy the Kid (Kristofferson)
> IT is US, and auties are just
> one of the many agents of Higher Dimensional
> Consciousness. God speaks to us (the Higher WE speaks
> to the lower WE of ourselves) in all kinds of
> different ways. Auties carry the messages within
> their bodies and minds, and as we listen to those
> messages, we also open to all the other ways God is
> speaking to us.
>
>
> >
> > > I
> > > believe we are in the process of a planet-wide
> > acceleration and
> > > Awakening, and children like Ivy show us where to
> > go to take our next
> > > steps.
> >
> > We have to learn to hear and talk to them first.
> > It's a collective
> > effort and in that sense we are God. Let us not
> > forget the Creator.
> > They are one and the same but that's a paradox for
> > later.
>
> Yes, until we fully develop our own telepathic
> abilities,
ick sounds horrendous lotsa noggins arent navigable w/o
antiseptics and a decontamination suit
? we need to find a bridge between our more
> archaic method of communication, verbal speech, and
> the autistic way, thought-sending.
>
> >
> > > Television shows like The 4400 and the absolutely
> > astounding
> > > new one, Heroes, show us where we're headed. The
> > truth is in those
> > > programs and dozens like them, and EVERYTHING is a
> > message "for those
> > > who have ears to hear."
> >
> > The Apostle Thomas was big on usage of that phrase
> > <smile>. I live
> > outside and only have an iPod and XM radio for
> > entertainment. I have
> > some great theology podcasts you can get for free to
> > listen to.
> > Interested? What religion were you raised? Let me
> > guess...Catholic
> > right <smile>
>
> Wow, Tom, you couldn't be more wrong on that one. ;-)
> I tried lots of different churches, then in college
> went with Native American Shamanism and then Wicca,
> before my spiritual awakening which led to my intense
> study and embracement of metaphysics. I refer to
> scripture because so many people believe eternal
> truths are found there, including me. I just think
> the Old Testament and its accounts of supernatural
> tyranny wasn't Creator at all, but demi-gods, and that
> Jesus's teachings are completely separate from the Old
> Testament and were given to free us from that very
> tyranny. The New Testament fits perfectly with
> metaphysics, and aside from the manipulations done on
> it over the ages by men whose agenda was
> disempowerment of the masses, the truth can still be
> found there.
>
> >
> > > I can intuitively tune into autistic and
> > otherwise
> > > differently-abled individuals and gain insight
> > into their messages
> > > that way,
> >
> > I can't do that. The auties said I could but I
> > don't know what the
> > heck they are talking about.
>
> So your experience has been as a Facilitated
> Communicator with auties, then? I'm new to this list,
> so forgive me if I'm asking questions answered a
> million times already.
>
> We ALL have telepathy. It's as natural to us as
> breathing. MORESO, actually. It's a matter of
> getting your mental body out of the way so your
> spiritual body can do its thing.
>
> >
> > > and especially with Ivy, my partner and I
> >
> > Oh jeeze, another one with a "partner". Hey
> > partner...like in the old
> > West. Ok, male or female? <smile>
>
> My luscious female lover, then. How's that? ;-)
>
> >
> > > are both able to
> > > receive her telepathic imprints, and she's even
> > MORE able to receive
> > > ours,
> >
> > You bet. She can hear you loud and clear...from
> > anywehre anytime.
>
> Of course. Time and space are fabrications of our
> human mind and have no real control over the reality
> of telepathy.
>
> >
> > > which means there are NO secrets from Ivy. ;-)
> >
> > That's the part of it that boggled my mind. I could
> > give a hoot about
> > what they heard of me. I knew I was living pretty
> > basic anyway
> > compared to everyone else. I should have been a
> > monk. I'd have more
> > money and sex if I had been a monk. Just kidding.
>
> Living with intuitives of any kind, autie or not, you
> learn that if we all just revealed our secrets
> upfront, we'd realize we're all the same and we'd all
> stop feeling so dirty, crazy, stupid, kinky, scared,
> boring, ugly, etc.
>
> >
> > > If she's in
> > > her room and you're thinking of making a trip to
> > the store, she'll
> > > come out with her jacket and shoes and a plan to
> > not take no for an
> > > answer. ;-)
> >
> > They never did that sort of thing with me. I wonder
> > why not.
>
> Motivation. Ivy's VERY motivated to go to the store,
> so she tunes into that vibe. ;-)
>
> >
> > > I'm ALWAYS willing to jump in and 'liven things
> > up', Tom. I like
> > > how you think. :-D
> >
> > You sound like alot of fun. Keep 'em commin.
> >
> > Tell more about Ivy. Her age etc. More about you
> > ideas for care
> > giving too. Where have you lived and all that kind
> > of stuff. I'm big
> > on biography. It may mean didley but it fascinates
> > me.
> >
> > Tom
>
> Ah, I'm happy to share, but let's save that for
> another email, as my scrumptious female
> lover/partner/mate just got home and I'm eager to talk
> to her. :-)
>
> Namaste!
>
> ~Satina
>
>
>
> Namaste,
>
> ~Satina
> Practical Spirituality you can use to create a life you love.
> http://www.dharmawork.blogspot.com
>
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