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Re: [FCworld] Can we work together to make FC more available?: msg#00077culture.autism
Hi Art, This is the first post I read when I came online yesterday and I intended to respond after reading all the stuff and then forgot. Most of what I have to say I have said many times before, so long time readers can probably skip this. The care providers are refusing to use FC because of the professional organizations position papers, particularly the American Pediatric Association's which was the most adamant against FC. All the others were more in line with the American Psychological Association's report which was more reasonable and left room for using it. The pediatric folks are first in line due to the nature of the work so everyone would tend to use them as the last word. We should first mount an advocacy to pressure the pediatrics if we want to give care providers more of a green light on FC. Their position paper should be more in line with APA's. The same warnings given by the APA could be applied to most any autism intervention, so we should also pressure them to put out the same kind of position papers for all other autism interventions, especially ABA which is the most widely used and abusive of the autism interventions. Much of this is politics also. FC was hooked up with the marxist feminists who have consistently used encouraging abuse allegations to further their own agenda. Many of the rank and file would deny this and I suspect most aren't aware of it, but I and many others know how the leaders operate and it's well documented in marxist feminist writings. Folks are now wise to them and most any intervention associated with them, good or bad, would tend to be dissed or ignored. This is why the FC community is split and we have Tito and Dove's mom where they are (on the Right). There's no bringing the two groups together. Making a new group in the middle might be wise thereby siphoning off folks from the Syracuse group and leaving the leaders behind who are obviously marxist feminists. Let's face it, the handling of the sexual allegations, which was the real reason FC got whacked, was the Syracuse groups responsibility. Or we could talk to Tito and Dove's mom and see if we can convince them to spruce up their act somewhat and find common ground. Those suckers have bales of money too. Maybe you should do that instead of me because I might call them "suckers" <smile> As for the intervention itself and how it should be structured and promoted, that's not the main issue as to why FC is not being used. The pediatritions have to be dealt with first. There is an opening maybe with adult residential, where I did my FC project. Most are run by ICF regs and psych's as opposed to pediatricians. Most advocates focus on the younger clients because that's where the active parents are and the most money. The problem is that the few parents who advocate in this area are truly clueless and wouldn't know where to start if they thought it was a good idea. Talking to Nancy Weiss of TASH would actually be the best place to start. I'll send her an email and see what she say and get back to you. Thanks again for being here and for all you do. You help inspire me. Tom --- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arthur Golden" <golden@xxxx> wrote: > > I just posted the following message to the FCworld list. If you also > belong to FCworld, please post any replies to FCworld. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FCworld/message/1733 > > From: Arthur Golden > To: FCworld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 3:49 PM > Subject: [FCworld] Can we work together to make FC more available? > > > Can we work together to make FC - Facilitated Communication - more > available? > > 1. First of all, let me clearly state that I personally wish to work > together with everyone to make FC - Facilitated Communication - more > available. Here in Israel I have worked together for over a decade > with a particular group of people, who share certain beliefs about > FC, to make FC available to a small number of individuals with > disabilities including my own son Ben. Unfortunately, others who are > proponents of FC both here in Israel and elsewhere have not worked > together with me because of certain beliefs that I have (naively) > revealed to them. > > 2. However, most of the people who refused to work with me did so 8 > to 11 years ago. Maybe, their views have mellowed over all this > time. Therefore, I wish to give another try to work together with > everyone possible to make FC more available. Before doing so, I do > feel that some specific issues should be discussed within the FCworld > e-mail group to try to make sure that we really can work together. > Over the next few weeks, I will try to raise these issues, while at > the same time begin my own efforts to make FC more available where I > now live, in the state of Israel. > > 3. Lastly, at this time, I do wish to note that certain practices in > connection with FC with which I was associated (in contrast to > beliefs) stopped many months ago and I do not plan to be associated > with such practices. For over 8 years, ending in early 2003, my son > Ben used to give spiritual advice. While I continue to believe that > my son Ben is able to give spiritual advice because of his type of > FC, my son Ben and the group that I am involved with, no longer do > so. I hope that the ending of such practices will allow other > proponents of FC to now work with me to make FC more available. > > Your comments would be appreciated. > > Arthur Golden of Jerusalem Israel > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Ever feel sad or cry for no reason at all? Depression. Narrated by Kate Hudson. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rL1caD/ubOLAA/xGEGAA/wzSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> |
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