RE: Re: my child types...Steve Miller, Alvin Lee and the Guess Who

ok - i know i wrote "end of story" for me - but this post requires further
attention and I'm sick to bits of it.  As probably many are.  But, since it
is a list, Internet, privacy, and autism issue all rolled into one
conglomerate - then here we go:

-----Original Message-----
From: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Tom Smith
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:10 PM
To: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Autismlist] Re: my child types...Steve Miller, Alvin Lee
and the Guess Who




--- remarksman <remarksman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> when ben wants to comment on the men's movement, i haven't noticed
> many disabilities on his part ... mostly on the part of
> his "listeners," who ignore his comments and capabilities

**** key:  when he wants to comment  ;o)   Correct - as you know -
disability is in the eye of the beholder.  Motor challenges a'plenty, and
whether there is "direct" response or not - i don't think it's so important
to him.  Ben adds here:  "window looks out."  What he needs to put out
reaches the intended.  If not - he persists.   And correct - he has no
problem directing my hand to who, what, when, where on the Internet or
elsewhere.  The child is only 7 and he is Mission Bent!   But, i'm still his
mom - no matter who likes that fact or not.  He can go headfirst via strong
emotion when maybe a pause is needed.  We trust each other to guide what is
put out in public.   You know, Ray, you have written a number of posts and
essays off this list - that referred to or were about Ben - with Ben's
permission and mine.  You've always asked and shown utmost respect in this
regard and demonstrated enormous responsibility in taking care with personal
information.  Only one time Ben told you no about something and he touched
the phrase "mustn't tell."   I wrote in an earlier post:   timing,
direction, place is important to him.

We wouldn't want to misrepresent 'ol Ben for crissakes who probably
knew before he sent it that I was going to send it to those lists
anyway for the reasons I said.

**** we don't know this.  He points to phrases:  "your juice" "cheesy"
As above - there are clearly "mustn't tell" communications. And the only way
to *know* is to ask.  What may be good for here - may not be so good in
another forum.  3 huge issues can be touched here:  Respect, Trust, Belief.

There is an important point here in regards to FC and that is the
process facilitators need to go through in sharing material.  What
happens to the material after it is shared is another issue.

**** the process of our sharing publicly is well in hand.   I'm not a
complete dunce.  I *know* this is the Internet.  People will do what they
want to do no matter what.  Just like in the 3D world here.   My own
expectation blew me away again - I trusted, and got singed.  So, go ahead
and do what you gotta do  -----  only be prepared for unexpected outcomes
when boundaries are crossed.   And put your shoe back on Nikita.  The table
is closer than you think.

NOW i'll give you a :::::HMPH::::::::.



> Space Cowboy, guess we weren't ready for that!
>
> nore yore hoss Neether!
>
> bring on summa that New Love there brother Ben-O, tired sad earthshe
>
> bet you know where It's at!
>
> yah yah yah yah!

***** oh well --- Hi E ... "people get ready"  "ready or not" "welcome to
Comcast"



What a great rock song that was.  I loved it's music as well as the
lyrics  My friends who had a band and played every weekend at the
college bar in 1967 had "Space Cowboy" in their set as well as "Hey
Joe" and other precious diddies of those days that never saw the light
on pop radio.  I still remember when that song came on seeing one of my
friends, who was a real cadet and now I'm convinced was an aspie,
loving that song and dancing all by himself to it.  We had a blast back
then.  No more though, the feminists shut down the bars and anything
else real, fun and especially masculine.  It's shocking and appalling
<smile>

Tom

*** do people call you "maurice?"   - "monkey hustle"

~*~ mostly Ben & tink

>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > all i can do is stop posting anything
> > > relevant. which i will. live and learn.



i'll keep to the smaller
> > > safer forums with her stuff. it's just too much to expect that a
> > > response in one group will remain in that group. i sure as hell
> > > wasn't happy that i and my child ended up getting crossposted
> there.
> > > but realize its the risk i take when i post on a public forum..
> > >
> > > remaining ABCD with good reason.
> >
> > Yeah, and your daughter will remain ?????????
> >
> > Why do I bother?
> >
> > ***   Best not to judge.   This is not the only forum Ben does or
> ever has
> > posted on. Ben's not hidden away, languishing somewhere
> forgodsake.  He has
> > posted here & other places for almost 3 years.  It's common
> sense.  If you
> > must and feel it's important to do so - do it in a different way.
> Take care
> > to remove the full e-mail identifiers.  You have agreed to do so.
> I will
> > take you on your word.  I was upset - but believe I was polite and
> stated my
> > objections without being offensive.  I hope this was so.  Again,
> you have
> > agreed, so end of story on my part.
> >
> > ~*~ Tink
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > > --- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tink" <tink.lecuyer@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Tom Smith
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:18 PM
> > > > To: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [Autismlist] Re: my child types...Steve Miller, Alvin
> Lee
> > > and
> > > > the Guess Who
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tink" <tink.lecuyer@xxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You know I support the men's movement.  Step off platforming
> can
> > > > work;
> > > > > HOWEVER - Let's ask Ben's permission before crossposting to
> > > groups
> > > > he did
> > > > > not point out.  thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > He remarks:  "sit down in your Thinking Chair and think -
> think -
> > > > think.
> > > > > when you use your mind, you take one step at a time."
> [blue's
> > > > clues]
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that's what I did and I said to myself, "There was only
> song
> > > > lyrics on that post.  What's the big deal?"
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~*~well.  if it had been *just* the lyrics - that would be
> fine.
> > > my full
> > > > e-mail was posted in the contents.  I had a moderate gasket
> blow
> > > out when I
> > > > saw that.  Asking if it's "okay" is not only courtesy &
> respectful
> > > of
> > > > boundaries and personal information - it's wise.   I think it
> would
> > >
> > > have
> > > > been a-okay to have written something like:  "one of the autie
> > > children on
> > > > my autism group posted these lyrics "whatever" in response
> > > to "whatever" - I
> > > > have no problem with that.  On the way Ben posts:  context,
> timing,
> > > > direction - makes a difference in impact & meaning of the
> message.
> > >
> > > I think
> > > > no harm done - but ask respectfully that my full e-mail is
> *not*
> > > disclosed
> > > > in things you want to crosspost, particularly to groups we do
> not
> > > post on or
> > > > are not members of.  s'aright, senor?  thank you.
> > > >
> > > > > ~*~ tink
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of Tom Smith
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:23 PM
> > > > > To: autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; aum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > > > > MS-DISCUSSION@xxxx
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Autismlist] my child types...Steve Miller,
> Alvin
> > > Lee
> > > > and
> > > > > the Guess Who
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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