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Subject: Re: FC Net - msg#00012
List: culture.autism
Hi Sheree,
Thanks. I have never been on FCNet but I will check FCWorld and see what
is going on.
Mary Ann
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Re: FC Net
Sheree Burke wrote:
Hey Janna!
Well, when we had the first, maybe the
second FC Conference, a list was established so that those who were
using FC, or facilitators, could have a place to talk over
difficulties, vent, or ask for help when they got "stuck". Sure, you
could join, but the focus is definitely on the facilitation process.
Interested?
~Sheree
Actually, VERY interested. I don't think I've mentioned here yet that
I've recently begun working with a 5yo who has CP. He's communicative
but unable to speak, so he's got a little sign and a lot of yelling.
The suggestion that is going to be implemented this year is getting him
set up with a communication device - can you see where I'm going with
this? He's totally a great candidate for FC (but will probably become
independent almost immediately, he's that "into" communicating).
I'll probably check out the list sometime this week. :)
-Janna
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Autism Support Worker (independent contractor)
ABA/IBI Therapist (independent contractor)
Calgary, AB, Canada
BMus, BAPsych
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can change the world if you care enough." - Mary Wright Edelman
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and breakers have swept over me." - Psalm 42:7
"Rolling river God, little stones are smooth, only once the water
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"Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like
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Re: Bahaviours
--- In autismlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Janna Hoskin <TreatAutism@xxxx>
wrote:
> Who told you not to give in to their demands, how are the requests
being
> made, and what kind of goals are there surrounding communication?
Other support workers, who have worked with the people for 10-20
years.
The requests are being made by either taking the worker by the hand
and lead him to the kitchen, or banging softly on the kitchen door
(which is locked, due to their behaviour problems). If the person is
being told to stop! he throws himself on the floor and start
screaming and throwing things.
'Older' workers believe that giving in to the demands, the person
will be drinking 150 cups of tea a day.
>
> Yes, I realize these are adults and not children, but there should
still
> be goals - just as children don't stop learning at 6, nobody stops
> learning when they reach adulthood.
I agree.
>
> More detail might help, as well. Things like what kind of program
> you're working in (residential placement, work program, etc.) and
how
> many people you are working with at once. You don't have to tell
us
> what the name of your agency is or anything like that, but thse
kinds of
> details will help us understand what's going on a little better.
I'm working for the government. Our clients live in independent
dwellings. The one I'm talking about have 2 clients and 2 support
workers.
Thanks for your help.
>
> -Janna
>
> --
> Early Birds Program Assistant (special needs 1:1 preschool)
> Autism Support Worker (independent contractor)
> ABA/IBI Therapist (independent contractor)
> Calgary, AB, Canada
> BMus, BAPsych
>
>
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> "Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you." -
> President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production
#522)
> "If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have
an
> obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time. You
really
> can change the world if you care enough." - Mary Wright Edelman
> "Deep calls to deep in the roar of Your waterfall; all of your
waves
> and breakers have swept over me." - Psalm 42:7
> "Rolling river God, little stones are smooth, only once the water
> passes through..." - Nichole Nordeman, "river god" (wide eyed,
1998)
> "Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd
like
> to be your hero, I am a mighty little man!" - Steve Burns, "Mighty
> Little Man" (Songs For Dustmites, 2003)
> http://members.shaw.ca/treatautism
>
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Re: FC Net
Sheree Burke wrote:
Hey Janna!
Well, when we had the first, maybe the
second FC Conference, a list was established so that those who were
using FC, or facilitators, could have a place to talk over
difficulties, vent, or ask for help when they got "stuck". Sure, you
could join, but the focus is definitely on the facilitation process.
Interested?
~Sheree
Actually, VERY interested. I don't think I've mentioned here yet that
I've recently begun working with a 5yo who has CP. He's communicative
but unable to speak, so he's got a little sign and a lot of yelling.
The suggestion that is going to be implemented this year is getting him
set up with a communication device - can you see where I'm going with
this? He's totally a great candidate for FC (but will probably become
independent almost immediately, he's that "into" communicating).
I'll probably check out the list sometime this week. :)
-Janna
--
Early Birds Program Assistant (special needs 1:1 preschool)
Autism Support Worker (independent contractor)
ABA/IBI Therapist (independent contractor)
Calgary, AB, Canada
BMus, BAPsych
****************************************************************************
"Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you." -
President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522)
"If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have an
obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time. You really
can change the world if you care enough." - Mary Wright Edelman
"Deep calls to deep in the roar of Your waterfall; all of your waves
and breakers have swept over me." - Psalm 42:7
"Rolling river God, little stones are smooth, only once the water
passes through..." - Nichole Nordeman, "river god" (wide eyed, 1998)
"Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like
to be your hero, I am a mighty little man!" - Steve Burns, "Mighty
Little Man" (Songs For Dustmites, 2003)
http://members.shaw.ca/treatautism
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FC - short excerpt
At the beginning of this school year, the first thing our Research
Methods professor showed us was a 20 minute video on FC, and
different case studies and reports of parents who's children it had
helped. I was uneasy, guessing what was to come next.
After she'd fascinated everyone in the lecture hall with the
wonderful things FC could do to help autistic people communicate,
she showed us the results of a study that was done which "proved"
that FC actually didn't do anything at all. She showed this study in
about 1 minute, and then dismissed the class.
I decided I didn't like her. She didn't seem to know what FC and
autism were all about... and that's fine, because it wasn't her area
of study... but what she did was misleading! Because, there ~are~
studies out there which show the validity of FC.
But anyway. I decided that for the end of term paper, where we had
to find an original psychology study and report on it, I would do it
on FC - you know, to educate her a bit. :D
I did it on the study by Sheehan and Matuozzi - I don't know if
anyone's ever read it, but I liked the study, it considered both
sides of the question and looked at FC from all angles. They
weren't obsessed with trying to either prove or disprove FC - they
were just interested in gathering information, to further pursue at
a later time.
I just wanted to share a bit of my report.
~~~
One other issue that might be further explored is the topic of
sensory issues in people with autism and how that might affect their
communication. Just as we would allow a near-sighted person
glasses, or a deaf person someone to translate in sign language,
autistic children have many sensory needs that can severely affect
communication and were not taken into account in this study.
A further study might be repeated, but with allowances for special
lighting in the room, keyboards with raised keys, breaks every few
minutes to let out pent up energy so the participants will not feel
the need to perserverate on certain phrases (a problem in this
study), as well as taking into account their difficulties with
processing different types of information ? pictures, spoken words,
written word, etc. If a participant is seeing two pictures as
disjointed bits of colours and shapes with no meaning attached, and
is asked to point to which one is the "tree", it is understandable
that they will point to a random one or not point at all.
Autism is a complex disorder that severely distorts the processing
of information. Any study conducted without taking a specific
person's difficulties into account is the same as giving a blind
person a regular book to read without allowing them a Braille
version, and then concluding from the study that that person is
unable to read.
~~~
Soooo... anyone know how I can skip the rest of my undergrad, and
just do my PhD already? :D
~Ana
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