|
Embed causes rich black – a mystery in several acts: msg#00184colorsync-users
Greetings, I have been consulting on the color management of a printed project, a 72-page booklet for the local chamber of commerce. Built entirely in InDesign, it contains legacy CMYK (some images contain embedded profiles and some do not), text and graphics created in InDesign, and a number of new images taken this year that were left in RGB color with the original camera profile embedded within. The work flow is to make CMYK PDF directly from InDesign (using PDF Presets in InDesign), and then the printer uses the PDF to enter his Rampage work flow to make plates on an Agfa Galileo platesetter. The printer made a special effort to run Idealiance G7 first, then printed an IT8.7 target, which was read with an iOne Pro, and I made the profile in ProfileMaker Pro using GCR2. I need to know if any of you have had a similar experience. Yesterday morning I attended a press check at the printing plant where the cover was on press as a work-and-turn. Everything was fine. I signed the press sheet, and they ran the job. Later in the day I was summoned to another press check of one of the inside forms, 8 pages of color ads and editorial material prepared to print sheetwise. When I got there on Sunday afternoon, they were washing-up the press. They gave up because all of the text, which had been created in InDesign, was printing in CMYK – all four colors. The black was not solid (it was probably 97%) and the C,M and Y were all underprinting the black. It created a situation that was unworkable, so they quit for the day. The rich black was in the PDF created by the designer. I went back to the designer's studio and worked with the designer to figure out how this had happened. We tested the same pages several different ways, among them (in both cases we replace the default SWOP profile with the press profile I made in PMP): 1. PDF Presets>Press Quality>Output>Convert to Destination (Preserve Numbers) AND "Include Destination Profile" 2. PDF Presets>Press Quality>Output>Convert to Destination (Preserve Numbers) AND "Don't Include Profiles" In case 1, all of the black text in the document is converted to CMYK rich black, as described above. In case 2, the black remains solid, and has no other colors underneath; it is simple 100% K black. In both cases everything else in the document is converted to CMYK (including the RGB). We tried this several times to check our sanity, and it does this 100% of the time, so embedding the destination profile (which isn't necessary in this work flow) seems to be the cause of the creation of rich black. Has anyone ever seen this? Has anyone any idea why this happens? Best wishes, Brian P. Lawler Color Consultant & College Professor San Luis Obispo, California _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/maillists%40codeha.us This email sent to maillists@xxxxxxxxx
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|
|
| News | Mail Home | sitemap | FAQ | advertise |