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RE: Experience with Epson's new Standard Proofing Papers 240: msg#00154colorsync-users
Hi Terry, I'm seriously abandoning our current brandX proofing paper. I've tested both the 205 gsm (7mill) and the 240 gsm (9mill) versions, here, with both an iSis and a DTP70, and the odd thing is that they both produced more reddish tones than my current brandX, which I trust visually like the gospel, despite getting for the same 0.50 average dE on both papers. The Epson papers don't glow as much as my brandX paper under a UV lamp so, in principle, I reasoned that their calibrated appearance ought to be even better, visually, than brandX but the appearance difference between the two papers has me thinking twice about switching. Not that the difference is extreme but it is there nevertheless. It is there on the C1, C3 and C5 conditions. I thought, at first, that the "error" stemmed from the iSis itself, but then I go the same "error" with the DTP70. So the instrument is not the at cause here, IMO. Although I plan to redo my experiments using the iO table, the Spectroscan and the iCColor. I'm at my wits as to which one to trust visually, you know. Since they both bring in a respectable 0.4 to 0.5 average dE, similar max too, compared to the IDEAlliance datasets. I have tried using some independent color visual references like a ColorChecker chart or a ColorChecker DC, to have some "objective" basis of comparison. But it turned out that both simulations had about the same visual errors. The flesh patch, for instance, lacked a bit of yellow, in both cases, and the brown skin patch (same chromaticity as the light flesh patch, btw, bever realized that until I actually measured it) was not even close. My tests consists of converting a custom measured CIELab version of the ColorChecker chart to either C1 or C3 or C5 using AbsCol, and then compared to the proof, on both kinds of paper. To rule out the possibility of lighting, I stepped outside to observe the proofs under "daylight" (fair bit of direct sunlight in my case) and most of the patches were very close again visually, across the two papers, to the ColorChecker chart, except for the dark (brown) skin patch, as was the case under my ISO-3664 viewing booth. One last note. I happen to have access to both a JUST-Normicht booth and a GTI booth in my office. Using the IDEAlliance proofing form page 2, under both lights, compared to my regular brandX paper, it was interesting that the visual difference tended to vanish under the GTI lamps where it was plain visible under the JUST lamps. Ah! Color, an endless quest... Best / Roger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/maillists%40codeha.us This email sent to maillists@xxxxxxxxx
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