FW: thanks

fyi: kevin's response to my question "how does one break into the java
arena?"

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hoyt [mailto:khoyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:45 PM
To: 'Sean Tierney'
Subject: RE: thanks


Sean,

It was my pleasure to present! You have an excellent group of members. In
answer to your question, one would tend to choose Java over CF, or vice
versa, depending on the type of developers their organization consisted of.

I've found that the vast majority of those looking to Java for the next
generation of their enterprise applications, are doing so because they have
ranks of thick client developers who used to build applications in C++.
Java for them is easy to learn, and they can start generating complex
applications virtually overnight.

Java is also extremely prevalent in organizations that require a distributed
computing environment. You find this more in larger enterprise IT shops.
Where the company has a vast amount of legacy code they don't want to port,
re-write, or otherwise have to mess with, that already works. They just
want to connect it into their new breed of web applications.

I hope this is a sufficient answer. If nothing else, it will at least get
some discussion going. Oh, and please feel free to post my reply.

Thanks,

Kevin Hoyt
Sales Engineer
Allaire Corp.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Tierney [mailto:sean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:08 AM
To: khoyt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: thanks


kevin,
thanks for giving us the lowdown on the java landscape last night- it was
very informative.

I find that no matter how interested in a particular technology I am, unless
I have a compelling reason to use it, it remains at the
"it-would-be-cool-learn-this-someday" status (can't tell you how many times
I've bought a book, read the first 30pgs with intention to learn only to go
back to doing what I already know for productivity's sake).

Usually we think of a project's needs as driving our choice of tools that we
use. For those of us who can choose which projects we take, however, we can
decide what we want to learn next and put ourselves in a position which
affords us the opprotunity and even demands that we learn a new language.

my question for you is what type of project/situation would necessitate the
use java over cf?
thanks. i'd like to post your response to our group's listserv if you don't
mind.
Sean

Sean Tierney
co-founder
Pubcrawl Network, LLC
http://www.pubcrawl.net