Glen,
I believe there is the possibility of negative side affects but the
likelihood of this is immensely small. A user would need to
inadvertently set a specific environment variable to a specific value to
have an issue. This does not happen in the real world and if it does,
this feature is configurable and is off by default.
I also believe there are exceptional cases in which it would not work.
But these are not the majority. I think we have a capability which
would easily and immediately benefit many sites. While this capability
does not cover 100% of cases, it definitely makes things better for
most. Weighing pros and cons, I think this feature is clearly worth it.
Dave
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 18:49 -0400, Glen Beane wrote:
> I think I agree with Garrick on this one.
>
> On 8/28/06, Garrick Staples <garrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I'm really uncomfortable with pbs_mom killing off processes that aren't
> > under its control. Even though looking for a jobid env var seems like a
> > reasonable assumption, I'm sure it will break someone somewhere.
> >
> > This sounds like a site-specific assumption that is easily, and sanely,
> > handled in epilogue.
> >
> > Perhaps this just belongs in the Wiki.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:43:15AM -0400, Andrew Keen alleged:
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > This feature would be very useful to us as we often have this problem
> > > (although not as often since we've migrated to using OSU's mpiexec
> > > instead of mpirun).
> > >
> > > -Andy
> > >
> > > torqueusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Re: Epilogue script (Dave Jackson)
> > > > 2. Re: Epilogue script (Diego M. Vadell)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Message: 1
> > > >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:13:49 -0600
> > > >From: Dave Jackson <jacksond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: Re: [torqueusers] Epilogue script
> > > >To: "Diego M. Vadell" <dvadell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Cc: torquedev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, torqueusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Message-ID: <1156533229.10669.77.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Content-Type: text/plain
> > > >
> > > >Diego,
> > > >
> > > > What would be the negatives of enabling this feature in a much more
> > > >integrated manner? ie, both mother superior and sister moms have a
> > > >config option 'cleanup_procs = true' which if true will search the
> > > >process tree for processors owned by user X with a matching job id in
> > > >the environment. pbs_mom could then terminate all of these processes
> > > >directly. This would make this feature much easier for most sites to
> > > >activate. No epilog/prolog creation, no compiling, simply set a
> > > >parameter. And as you mention, it would work in both dedicated and
> > > >shared node operation.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > >
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