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[mb-users] More thoughts on voting: msg#00069audio.musicbrainz.user
Hi all, First, let me say congrats to the new autmoderators. Thanks for all the dedication and hard work. Second, let me say "great job" Robert and Dave; I'm really impressed with how well the system held up under the onslaught of new users this year. Third, as I said in an earlier message, I think that we're getting a dedicated group of people who care about the quality of product, which means that we can generate more ideas and catch potential problems than without everyone involved. Fourth, let me stir the pot a little more by added more thoughts on future directions (very rambling, it's hard for me to be very organized in the evening....) On voting: I agree that "forcing" people to vote is doomed from the start since it would greatly amplify the effect of people voting either yes/no (if no abstain were available) blindly, or greatly increasing the amount of abstains which wouldn't net the project anything anyway. Rob, if we were to redo the system in favor of a wiki-style system, how much of a rewrite would that require? How much more storage would be required to host the database if we keep all the changes ever made to the data? Assuming we decided to stay with the present voting system, rather than trying to "force" more voting, we should look for ways to decrease the mountain of open mods (7000+ when I looked at work today. True, they don't *need* to be voted on right away, but a lot of the FreeDB mods I voted earlier in the week were already expired, which means that they ultimately hinged on *one vote* anyway.) Here are some of my ideas: -Allow a "filter by artist" view of open moderations so people could quickly view their favorite artists and check those mods out. This could be extended in the future when we have a genre field in place by allowing a "filter by genre" list of mods, so that people could concentrate on what they know best. (For example, I prefer music from the 60s/70s/80s, so I know a *whole* lot less about current artists.....) -Allow a MAC on a pending add to affirm the addition. If someone spends the time to do the conversion, it has a greater chance of being right. -Figure out a way to present a MAC where the tracks get moved at the same time on a single screen, so that you have to only vote once rather than for the MAC and then for each track/artist change. (Maybe disallow moving the tracks later? Although I have had my PC crash on me in the middle of one.) And on a realted note, what about allowing an automoderator to affirm/deny the whole thing. If they're trusted to automod a MAC then this could also fall under their purview. Maybe make available a field for the reason that a MAC was denied? This could help provide guidance to new moderators where needed. The well seems to be drying up, though it seemed like I had lots of ideas reviewing all the message this week. (Did we have a record couple of weeks on the list just now?) I'll continue to post ideas as I can..... Later, Frank PS. By the way, I didn't mean to cause this big a dust up, but it does seem to have been productive..... ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
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