Re: VOTE: WS-Fx and Sandesha proposals

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

> Dims asked me to follow-up on the discussion we had ref starting
> a new umbrella subproject to host other WS-* implementations. I'd
> like to call a vote for creating the WS-Fx project per
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WebServicesProjectPages/Charter
> ForWSFx
>
> as well as for the Sandesha project per
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ReliableMessagingProposal
>
> Dims wants to hold off on the WS-Security stuff until he has more
> discussion with RSA Security regarding IP/license issues.
>
> Here's my vote: +1 for both proposals.
>  
+1 in principle.

however how are IP issues resolved for WS-ReliableMessaging from
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-rm/

it is not clear to me if WS-RM can be implemented as open source?

is it safe for Apache to host it considering following warning?

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what did i miss?

thanks,

alek

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