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Re: [DISCUSS] [Contributing] (2) - Review Steps


There is no guarantee that a PR will be looked at nor is it possible to provide this in any way on the project level.

As far as Apache is concerned all contributors/committers etc. work voluntarily, and as such assigning work (which includes ownership if it implies such) or similar is simply not feasible.

On 25.09.2018 16:54, Thomas Weise wrote:
I think that all discussion/coordination related to a contribution / PR
should be handled through the official project channel.

I would also prefer that there are no designated "owners" and "experts",
for the reasons Fabian mentioned.

Ideally there is no need to have "suggested reviewers" either, but then
what will be the process to ensure that PRs will be looked at?

Thanks,
Thomas



On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 6:17 AM Tzu-Li Chen <wander4096@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Fabian,

You convinced me. I miss the advantage we can take from mailing lists.

Now I am of the same opinion.

Best,
tison.


Fabian Hueske <fhueske@xxxxxxxxx> 于2018年9月25日周二 下午3:01写道:

Hi,

I think questions about Flink should be posted on the public mailing
lists
instead of asking just a single expert.

There's many reasons for that:
* usually more than one person can answer the question (what if the
expert
is not available?)
* non-committers can join the discussion and contribute to the community
(how can they become experts otherwise?)
* the knowledge is shared on the mailing list (helps in cases when only
one
person can answer the question)

Last but not least, my concern is that committers for popular
contribution
areas would be flooded with requests.
Even without being listed as a "component expert", I cannot handle all
review requests directed at me.
I work on issues (PR reviews, my contributions, discussions) that I deem
important and being constantly pinged does not really help to speed
things
up.
There are of course cases when it is important to be notified, but IMO
chances that those get the right attention decrease with the number of
requests.

Best, Fabian




Am Di., 25. Sep. 2018 um 04:10 Uhr schrieb Tzu-Li Chen <
wander4096@xxxxxxxxx
:
Thanks for start the discussion Stephan!

(1) Do we agree on the five basic steps below?*
+1 to the five steps and making the third question in the proposal the
first.

(2) How do we understand that consensus is reached about adding the
feature?
+1 to lazy consensus with one committer's +1

(3) To answer the question whether a PR needs special attention

Contributor can ask for special attention, which is treated as a
suggestion.
Committer can ask for another committers' attention, either for advice
or
transfer
the right of decision.

IMO it is quite help to add a page about "component experts", attach or
link  it
from README. This would be a really helpful information to new
contributors
so that they know to whom he can cc or ask for advice. Besides it would
be helpful for those who want to know more about the mechanism
underneath
Flink, now they know with whom they can consult.

Best,
tison.