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Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes


Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 1:18 AM Myrle Krantz <myrle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hey James,
>
> Took a bit of time out of my family reunion to make this happen.
> Extra-special just for you (but also because this isn't actually hard
> to do -- I'm hoping that if you hadn't directed the request at me, one
> of the other committers would've stepped up and typed out the 6 git
> commands required. : o)
>
> Greets from the roads of England,
> Myrle
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM James Dailey <jamespdailey@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Myrle - could you please push this to production website?
> >
> > We hope that people will follow up from the OSCON exposure we (you, Ed
> and
> > I at OSCON) have been giving fineract and I firmly believe it is
> important
> > that the language on the front page positions the project in a good
> way...
> > it helps with the approachability of the project, making it easier for
> > others to understand why they would join and to really understand the
> > purpose of the project. This seems like a minor thing and no one has
> > objected to the text change in over two weeks.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:13 AM Ed Cable <edcable@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 from me to push as is too.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Dailey <jamespdailey@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update.
> Can we
> > > > push live? - James
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <myrle@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I made that change and several more.  I've pushed them as a
> separate
> > > > > branch.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, have a look at
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639  My
> first
> > > > > changeset there is content-free.  It's just a reflow, with the
> > > > > intention of making subsequent changes easier to see.  If there
> are no
> > > > > objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> > > > > live.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Myrle
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <
> jamespdailey@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Myrle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.  Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <myrle@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes.  I agree
> 100%
> > > > > > > with your approach to the changes.  I also see you caught a
> bug and
> > > > > > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > > > > > Awesome!  Thank you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your
> > > > changes:
> > > > > > >  The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries
> of
> > > what
> > > > > > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting
> > > organizations
> > > > > > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects.  "Fineract
> code
> > > > was
> > > > > > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based
> > > Charity
> > > > > > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally."  What you
> write
> > > > > > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > > > > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract
> > > joined
> > > > > > > Apache.  If you want to say a few words about the history of
> the
> > > > > > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our
> > > main
> > > > > > > page.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer
> to
> > > do
> > > > > > > it yourself?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S.  I've created an issue for the changes, in case you
> prefer to
> > > > > > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <
> > > jamespdailey@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via
> Github.
> > > > my
> > > > > id
> > > > > > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <
> myrle@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually
> changing
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > > > could see the diff.  Can you submit a PR containing your
> > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at
> > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just
> edit
> > > > > > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but
> because
> > > > > you're
> > > > > > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty".  If
> you
> > > > have
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the
> PR,
> > > > make
> > > > > > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you
> > > > submitted,
> > > > > > > > > and finally merge the changes.  Once a PR is merged, it can
> > > take
> > > > > up to
> > > > > > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the
> website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or
> > > > accepted,
> > > > > > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software
> > > Foundation
> > > > > > > > > before any of your content can be accepted.  You can find
> that
> > > > form
> > > > > > > > > here:
> > > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <
> edcable@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to
> the
> > > > > website
> > > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > > > > > jamespdailey@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > world of
> > > > > > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a
> broader
> > > > > concept
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > Financial Inclusion.  And, the concept behind
> contributing
> > > to
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract
> > > platform
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service
> > > providers.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns
> > > with
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into
> > > > fineract,
> > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project
> as
> > > > > > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> > > > > general-purpose
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at
> the
> > > > URL:
> > > > > > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific
> > > > "features"
> > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > > > > >  https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or
> comment,
> > > > > please
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it
> > > > require
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > formal
> > > > > > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> > > > > offered,
> > > > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > > > > > edcable@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: edcable | Mobile:
> +1.484.477.8649
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > > > > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos>  <
> http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Ed Cable*
> > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > edcable@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > >
> > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> > > <http://facebook.com/mifos>  <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > >
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