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Re: [All] GSoC news?



One of the benefits of team work and being part of a "community"
is that processes are supposedly more robust, even if not
everyone does the right thing all the time.  Or so I thought.

Gilles

On Thu, 3 May 2018 18:39:12 +0100, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 03/05/18 15:42, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2018 13:56:06 +0100, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 03/05/18 13:15, Gilles wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2018 12:59:04 +0100, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 03/05/18 12:41, Gilles wrote:
Hi.

Should we worry that there is no email traffic about
the GSoC proposals?

Did we have any GSoC proposals?

Yes.[1]

No. Those are not proposals. Those are ideas / suggestions. A proposal is something that a student formally submits, via Google, for the ASF to
consideration.

Such proposals ("Google docs") were submitted to this ML.
I made comments.

Unfortunately, there seemed to have been a misunderstanding
about the process.
At some point, I assumed that one official mentor for "Commons"
(as "the" project) was fine; and that would have been Stian
(AFAICT), assuming (and mentioning it in a post IIRC) that the
community members here would help as they usually do (review,
comment, commit, ...).


Were any accepted?

By whom?

ASF and Google.

That wasn't at all clear: In exchanges which we've had here,
the milestones were
 1. Submit tasks with label "gsoc2018"
 2. Apache was accepted
 3. Students provided a plan and timetable

Then ???

The process was explained, with links to more detailed information, in
the emails that went out to all the PMC mailing lists.

I have no idea about the formal process but understood (perhaps
wrongly) that Apache as a whole had been accepted and that it
was up to the "student" to connect with the relevant projects.
That much seemed to have happened a few weeks ago.[2][3]

There is rather more to it than that. I suggest you read up on GSoC at
the ASF. Start here:
https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
I recommend you read all the linked pages but especially this one:
https://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html

Page is badly out-of-date.

The reference to Harmony is dated although the general point stands even
though Harmony has been in the attic for some time.

A couple of the links to Google needed updating. I've just done that.

The key information was fine though.

I recall one mentor
request from Commons and I don't see that mentor listed as
requesting to
mentor a proposal in the (internal only) master spreadsheet.

Where is that spreadsheet?

Access details are on the private mentors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx list to which all prospective ASF GSoC mentors are required to subscribe. The
link was sent out several times including 9th April.

I guess it's too late now:
  https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html

It is.

Too bad that no coordination could exist between those who were
willing to give time to the program and those who were aware of
the administrative side of it.

We receive tons of mostly useless email from JIRA.  One could have
been a reminder that a submitter of "gsoc2018"-labelled tasks *must*
register as an official mentor... :-/

I saw at least two emails to the Commons private list reminding folks
that they needed to sign up to the relevant mailing lists or run the
risk of missing important information.

As far as I can tell, the only person that formally signed up as a
potential mentor from Commons was Adam Soroka.

Mark


Apologies to Gimhana and Greg for the misunderstanding! :-(

Regards,
Gilles

Mark

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20gsoc2018
[2] https://markmail.org/message/bgw5xdzz24cdsssv
[3] https://markmail.org/message/xnfaszgrkutd4mfe



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