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4.11 without Host-HA framework

I keep seeing conflicting information about this in the mailing lists and in blogs etc.

If I run 4.11 without enabling Host HA framework should HA still work if I crash a compute node because my understanding was the new framework was added for certain cases only.

It doesn't work for me but I can find a number of people saying you don't need to enable the new framework for it to work.