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Re: Proposing an Apache Cassandra Management process


Thanks, Mick & Stefan for your inputs. What should we do as next steps to move this proposal forward?
Dinesh 

    On Sunday, November 18, 2018, 11:57:54 AM PST, Stefan Podkowinski <spod@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
 
 My goal for a side car would be to enable more people to contribute to
the project, by making it more accessible for anyone who’s not familiar
with the Cassandra code base, or not familiar with Java development in
general. Although most of the functionality described in the proposal
sounds useful to have, I’d already be happy to have a solid REST API for
the existing nodetool and JMX functionality. If an official side car,
installed separately on each node, would provide that, I’m sure we’d see
lots of new tools created by the community (web UIs, cli tools, ..)
based on that. This would also be a good foundation for other existing
tool to converge upon, e.g. by calling the REST APIs for repair
scheduling and progress tracking instead of JMX, or by continually
integrating and sharing useful helper calls. This would also give
Cassandra devs more leeway to replace some of the existing tooling
related code in Cassandra, e.g. by migrating to virtual tables, while at
the same time keep providing a stable API through the side car.

What I’d also like to point out here is that implementing such a project
as an *official* side car, also implies to me having the same standards
when it comes to release quality. I’d also really prefer having feature
sets matching between Cassandra and the side car, e.g. authentication
and SSL should also be supported in the side car from the beginning,
ideally without any additional configuration.


On 06.11.18 10:40, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Joey, Vinay & I have fleshed out the Management process proposal as the very first CIP document (with Jason’s inputs). It is available on the cwiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=95652224
>
> Please comment on it and provide us any input that you may have. We want to ideally time-box the period to 2 weeks so we avoid waiting indefinitely.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dinesh
>
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 7:30 AM, "dinesh.joshi@xxxxxxxxx.INVALID" <dinesh.joshi@xxxxxxxxx.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for starting this, Mick. I will flesh it out.
>> Dinesh 
>>
>>    On Sunday, October 21, 2018, 1:52:10 AM PDT, Mick Semb Wever <mck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
>>
>>
>>> But I'll try to put together a strawman proposal for the doc(s) over the 
>>> weekend. 
>>
>> I've thrown something quickly together here:
>> - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=95652201
>> - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CIP-1%3A+Proposing+an+Apache+Cassandra+Management+process
>>
>> The former is a blatant rip-off from the Kafka and Spark design proposal pages that Dinesh previously mentioned. I'd hoped to do more of an analysis of the existing C* habits and precedence on design proposals (implicit in jira tickets), but in lei of that this is a strawman to start the discussion.
>>
>> The latter still needs to be fleshed out. Dinesh, can you do this? I can add a subpage/section that describes the alternative/consuming third-party tools out there.
>>
>> regards,
>> Mick
>>
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